Saugata Roy speaks during Question Hour on renovation of Ganga ghats in Bengal

The Minister spoke at length about the Mission but did not say a word about any project for West Bengal. The river Ganges flows for about 400 km in West Bengal, as far as I know. Ganga flows from Manikchak till Gangasagar in our State. But the Minister is silent on Bengal.

In my constituency there are four municipalities on the banks of river Ganga. In three of those municipalities we renovated the ghats during UPA 2 time. We have been writing letters for the last two years for the renovation of Baranagar ghat and setting up electric crematorium there. The Minister only acknowledges the letters but has not taken any concrete action.

The Minister mentioned 6 cities, five of which are in UP and one in Bihar. What about rejuvenation of Ganga in West Bengal? Will the Minister please shed light on that. This is my question.

 

Saugata Roy raises the issue of atrocities against Dalits during Zero Hour in Lok Sabha

Madam, I request that I may be permitted to raise a matter of urgent public importance during Zero Hour.

27 year old Jogesh who consumed pesticide in Saurashtra, Gujarat was one of the two dozen people who attempted to commit suicide to register outrage over humiliation of Dalits by cow vigilantes in Una, Gujarat. He died in a hospital on 31 July, 2016. Dalits have held a massive protest in Ahmedabad on Sunday against public flogging of their community members in Una.

Atrocities against Dalits are taking place in various parts of the country including Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh. A BJP leader in Uttar Pradesh made obscene remarks against Dalit leader Mayawati. A BJP MP Udit Raj has been vocal against so-called protectors of Hinduism. Strangely enough, the Prime Minister has remained silent on the atrocities against Dalits in the country including in his home state Gujarat. He did not speak anything on the matter in his ‘Mann Ki Baat’.
The Gujarat CM has resigned; the PM must take some steps to stop the atrocities on the Dalits in the country.

 

Saugata Roy speaks on The Enforcement of Security Interest and Recovery of Debt Laws & Miscellaneous Provisions (Amendment) Bill, 2016

Sir, I rise to speak on The Enforcement of Security Interest and Recovery of Debt Laws & Miscellaneous Provisions (Amendment) Bill, 2016. It was introduced by the Finance Minister on 11 May, 2016 and it was immediately referred to a Select Committee. The Select Committee has submitted its report in July, 2016. Fortunately the Select Committee had no dissent notes. So we can say that Select Committee was unanimous in its recommendations and hence we should not oppose the Bill too much.

Having said that let me point out some other matters to the Finance Minister who must be a little tensed because tomorrow the GST Bill is to be introduced in Rajya Sabha. He must have been holding last moment parlays. Our party has supported the GST Bill from the beginning, only I hope that in the last moment small contradictions that are there will be ironed out.

Now before I speak on the Bill let me point out that we are talking about banks and the regulator of the banks is Reserve Bank of the India. I must put on record that the controversy made by a BJP MP on the RBI Governor was absolutely unwarranted. It has lowered our prestige in the international market and ultimately the RBI Governor decided to leave. He will leave in September. It should not happen.

The other day we were discussing prices. Now Reserve Bank was caught in a peculiar situation. It cannot lower interest rates till food inflation comes down. And unless RBI lowers interest rate there can be no big investments coming. So, the problem of prices, which is linked to the Finance Ministry is also related to problem of industrial development.

Now the Finance Minister being a lawyer believes in bringing laws. Nothing wrong in that; the Lok Sabha is here for passing laws. But merely passage of laws does not change a situation where administrative and management actions are called for. Just by having a law, does not help anybody. Political will is also necessary and that seems to be missing.

He has already passed in this Session the ‘Bankruptcy and Insolvency Code’ which takes care of insolvency problem. He has two targets. One is to target black money with laws. The other is to target the NPAs of banks through laws. But so far we have not seen, in spite of passage of laws, much progress on these two fronts.

Sir, before coming to the Bill let me paint a picture of the banking industry. The banking industry is at the worst situation that you can consider. The total stress assets amount to Rs 8 lakh crore, that is 5.6% of the GDP. The RBI Governor had reviewed a meeting in February, advised deep surgery. Since then PSU banks have started making hectic right of these stress assets. What this is leading to? On December, 2015 value of stress assets was Rs 7.4 lakh crore which has now gone up to Rs 8 lakh crore.

RBI has said that 10.9%, one tenth of all loans, are stressed. In the quarter ended December 31, 2015 the State Bank of India, the biggest bank has posted 67% decline in consolidated profit to Rs 1259 crore for the third quarter due to higher provision in bad loans. The total provision in NPAs jumped to Rs 7644 crore that you are keeping separately.

Similarly, other smaller banks have bled even more. Banks are in a bad shape and are in dire need for capital infusion from the government. Banks say that RBI ordered an asset quality review. That’s why we have been forced to increase the provisions for stress assets. But this is not enough, Sir. That public sector banks have written off Rs 1.14 lakh crore of bad loans during 2012-15, that will never be recovered but that is the condition of the banks. Now can this be made up by laws alone – is my question.

In 2014-15 the State Bank of India wrote off Rs 1313 crore, The Punjab National Bank wrote off Rs 6587 crore. All is not right in the State of Denmark. Things are very wrong with the banks. I hope the government realises that.

Sir, now we can come to the laws that are there for recovery the bad debts. Recovery of Debts due to Banks and Financial Institution Act, 1993 through the debt recovery tribunals set up for loans. But you must be know that 70,000 cases are pending in DRT and though the law stipulated that all DRT applications should be disposed off in six months, for years together due to adjournments and other reasons. Cases are pending; DRTs are not functioning rightly.

Sir the other law that was enacted was called Securitization and Deconstruction of Financial Asset and Enforcement of Security Interest Act, 2002. Now this gave rise to a new type of company called the Asset Reconstruction companies.

This law is known as SARFAESI Act. Now the recovery of debts is available to both secured and unsecured creditors. But they must be banks or notified financial institution.

Cases over Rs 10 lakh would be automatically transferred to the debt recovery tribunals. Now what changes have been brought about? In this whole Act there are two parts, actually four parts. The SARFAESI Act to be amended, The Act on D-Act is to be amended, The Indian Stamp Act to be amended and The Depository Act has to be amended.

Now what are the new changes and amendments that have been brought? One is expeditious disposal of all applications. Second is an important change, there can be electronic filing of applications. Three, the priority of the secured creditors is enforced through the DRT amendment. Four, debenture trustees will be treated as financial institutions and five, empowering central government to provide for uniform rules for conducting processes of DRTs. So these are the five changes that have been made in the DRT Act.

Now in SARFAESI, Section 13 went for serious change. First, to ensure security  for the NPAs without intervention of tribunals. If an asset was declared as a non performing asset you can directly go for SARFAESI to the asset reconstruction company. Number 2, any appeal against the new amazement any appeal against action taken against SARFAESI will lie with the debt recovery tribunal. Now what will these asset reconstruction companies do?

Asset reconstruction companies take over the non performing assets of the banks at discounted rates and manage at the disposal of such assets. This is a funny thing. If there is a Rs 1000 crore loan from a company to a bank, then the ARC will purchase the asset for Rs 600 crore. Then it will take over the property of the company and then it will sell them off and try to recover the Rs 600 crore and make a profit in this matter. The RBI is the regulator according to the amendment.

Next, what happened earlier is that the lender used to take loan from different banks showing the same property that is why a central registry has been created. And now to prevent multiple loaning from different banks for the same immovable property, central electronic registry has been set up, it is operational since 2011.

Now in the new amendment there will be new registration of creation, modification, satisfaction of Security Act by all secured creditors. And there is provision of integration of the security system. That is if a person had cars under the Motor Vehicles Act, immovable property, everything will be registered together so that bank at the push of a button will know what are the properties and which of them have been given to the bank as security. The idea is to create a central database of security interest in property right.

Secondly, it gives the Reserve Bank of India, which is been a little disempowered due to controversy over Raghuram Rajan, the power to regulate ARCs to carry out audit and inspection.

Three, to impose penalty on the ARCs. There will be exemption from stamp duty on loans assigned by banks and financial institutions to asset reconstruction companies.

Four, the amendment to enable non-institutional investors to invest in the security receipts by the asset reconstruction companies.

Five, those who issue debenture, even the government issues debentures, the debenture trustees will have the same rights as the secured creditors.

Six, there would be specific timelines for taking possession of secured assets.

Seven, the priority will be given to secured creditors in the repayment of debts.

Eight, amendment of the Indian Stamp Act, amendment of the Depositories Act, 1996, which will help banks and financial institutions to recover bank loans faster.

Sir, lastly I will say that we are members of the Finance Standing Committee and the committee went deep into the problem of nonperforming assets. We made certain recommendations – it was an All-Party Committee – some of which have been implemented or followed by the government and some have not been. For instance, our Committee pointed out that the total credit given by all the banks in December, 2014 was Rs 60.60 lakh crore. Now gross NPAs will touch Rs 4 lakhs in 2015-16. Our committee was not happy with the management of the problem both by the Reserve Bank and banks. Banks have failed to notice early signs of stress of loans disbursed by them our committee suggested that they should have intervened at the right time, earlier timely measures are necessary. Two important recommendations were, foreign sick audit should be made compulsory for specific class of borrowers so diversion of funds by promoters to unrelated businesses do not take place.

Developing a vibrant bond market is necessary because most of the defaulters are infrastructure companies and hence finance infrastructure companies; that is our suggestion, which has not been taken or done by the government. The biggest loans are in the infrastructure sector. Sir, you will be surprised that willful defaulters like Vijay Mallya owe the PSU banks a total of Rs 64,334 crores which is 21% of the total NPAs. So the suggestion was that every bank must focus on 30 stressed accounts so that Mallya-like incidents do not take place any more.

Sir, our committee also suggested that the RBI has not succeeded as a regulatory in the implementation and enforcement of its own guidelines. RBI must monitor and follow it up with banks. Lastly, we talked about corporate debt restructuring; CDI has failed as a method to achieve the desired objectives. Steps should be taken to take charge of failed CDR companies.

Sir, the committee also recommended more DRTs to be taken up. Sir, lastly I want to say that the recovery of NPAs through DRTs and SARFAESI have shown a decline from 2010-11 to 2013-14. So just because you have an Act doesn’t mean that NPAs will go down.

Lastly, in the Select Committee, many members suggested that agricultural loans if they are taken as collaterals, should be omitted from the scope of recovery; that suggestion was not listened to.

So we have supported the law but the banking system is in worse crisis. If one bank fails there will be cascading effect. And what the Finance Minister should be concerned about, more than GST, is the state of the banking system.

And Sir, lastly I want to mention that the RBI Governor came to our Standing Committee on Finance. He showed us a graph showing that the credit from the public sector banks is less than the credit from private sector banks. So, actually credit is not flowing into the market. Industrial development and recovery are in a stagnant process.

So, I say let the Minister have all the Act and the powers but just as Benami Transaction Act should not lead to tax terrorism, similarly the SARFAESI Act should not lead to bank official terrorism where they drag the small lenders to the courts.

Thank you very much.

 

Monsoon Session Week Two: A purposive week for Trinamool in Parliament

Trinamool Congress raised various issues in both the Houses of the Parliament during the week and urged the Government to take appropriate steps.

In the Upper House, the Trinamool Congress utilised the Zero Hour, the Question Hour, the Calling Attention Motions to the fullest and took part in several discussions.

Question Hour

Trinamool Leader of the Parliamentary Party in Rajya Sabha Derek O’Brien urged Centre to set up a committee to address concerns of debt-stressed States during Question Hour (http://goo.gl/3fds2m). Later in the week he again the Government what steps it was taking to make medicines affordable prices, and ensure that prices are not affected by FDI (http://goo.gl/q1rvwx)

MP KD Singh also questioned the Government on allowing of taxis in private airports (http://goo.gl/4G8Qsr).

Saugata Roy questioned the Centre on its stand on small tea gardens during Question Hour in LS (http://goo.gl/tTWlJN) and also the shift of Tea Board HQ from Kolkata to Assam (http://goo.gl/ljJOm2).

Ratna De Nag raised a question in LS regarding the mechanism of preventing banned drugs from being sold in the country (http://goo.gl/TPE8tn).

Prasun Banerjee’s question to the Central Government was on popularising football in India by strengthening the federation (http://goo.gl/4sHqmB).

Mumtaz Sanghamita, during Question Hour in Lok Sabha raised the issue of investment in development of airport/airstrips and also questioned the government on the withdrawal of the Air India flight from Durgapur where it is much needed (http://goo.gl/PMCrGU).

 

Zero Hour

MP Dola Sen, during the Zero Hour spoke regarding the demand for elimination of unmanned level crossings in the country (http://goo.gl/UPOHjq).

Sukhendu Sekhar Roy raised the issue of scholarships for minority students being during Zero Hour (http://goo.gl/cGA8gL) and Ratna De Nag raised the demand of expanding the subway at Bhadreswar station (http://goo.gl/xOmMDM).

Aparupa Poddar demanded allocation of funds for pilgrimage to Tarakeswar during Zero Hour and also introduction of special trains during the annual pilgrimage to Tarakeswar (http://goo.gl/lYvQqf). Whereas Pratima Mandal spoke on the need of a level crossing at Piyali railway station to ensure easier movement of vehicles and students across the Piyali River (http://goo.gl/8JDnDd).

Nadimul Haque in the week, during Zero Hour he raised the demand for release of scholarships to minority students (http://goo.gl/STr8ID) later in the week.

Special mention

Trinamool MP Md Nadimul Haque during a Special Mention urged the Government on the need for a law against spitting in public places (http://goo.gl/92m0FN).

Trinamool MP Ahamed Hassan Imran, during a Special Mention raised the issue of reduced Central funding of schemes (http://goo.gl/Gfbxf4) which is against the spirit of cooperative federalism. He later spoke on drug pricing during a Calling Attention Motion.

In a Special Mention Dola Sen spoke on the need to replicate successful models in combating Left Wing Extremism (http://goo.gl/2UEbM6).

 

Discussion

During a Short Duration Discussion on the situation arising out of the rise in prices in the country (http://goo.gl/k9nsWa), Derek O’Brien pointed out that Government is very good at communicating on social media sites. But when it comes to basic issues like price rise, they have forgotten the people that gave them this historic mandate in 2014 people that brought them to power.

The Trinamool Leader of the Party in Rajya Sabha also raised the issue of Aadhaar card being made mandatory for receiving Government benefits and pointed out that there are a lot of people who are suffering and not getting pension and several other benefits (http://goo.gl/VqpX6e).

Trinamool Chief Whip at Rajya Sabha, Sukhendu Sekhar Roy took part in a short duration discussion on Andhra Pradesh Reorganization Act, 2014 (http://goo.gl/cB9KIs) where he demanded that assurances made by the then Prime Minister on the floor of the House must be fulfilled.

In Lok Sabha, the Trinamool Congress Trinamool Chief Whip Kalyan Banerjee took part in several discussions including  The Child Labour (Prohibition and Regulation) Amendment Bill, 2016 (http://goo.gl/OTGrfx), on The Lokpal and Lokayuktas (Amendment) Bill (http://goo.gl/HZpoba), on The Benami Transactions (Prohibition) Amendment Bill, 2015 (http://goo.gl/9d7qHI) and protested the issue of Aadhaar card being made mandatory, during a short discussion (http://goo.gl/ThrEhX).

Trinamool MP Dr Sugata Bose took part in several discussion including the Lokpal and Lokayuktas (Amendment) Bill (http://goo.gl/iugFHh).

Sugata Bose, while speaking in LS regarding an enabling regulatory architecture in higher education institutions stated that Jadavpur University from West Bengal is in the 500-600 range of the world rankings of the TIME’s higher education supplement. On the subject of education (http://goo.gl/1nz5Df) Saugata Roy also spoke in Lok Sabha on The Institutes of Technology (Amendment) Bill, 2016 and stated that IIT Kharagpur was a pioneer in the field and for the first time it started courses in naval architecture. Aeronautical engineering and agricultural engineering which were not taught anywhere else in the country (http://goo.gl/ENKkWp).

Saugata Roy raised the issue of Chinese incursion in Uttarakhand (http://goo.gl/4w9Lau). While speaking on The Benami Transaction (Prohibition) Amendment Bill, 2015 Saugata Roy mentioned that the Bill should not become another cursive instrument in the hands of revenue department to forcibly collect taxes (http://goo.gl/QZj9NP).

During a discussion on price rise in Lok Sabha, Saugata Roy criticized the central government stating their motto seems to be imposing cess on everything under the Sun (http://goo.gl/k9ITy5).

Ratna De Nag  spoke on The Child Labour (Prohibition and Regulation) Amendment Bill, 2016 during which she stated that even after 69 years of independence; we are unable to stop child labour in our country (http://goo.gl/HDsRVU) whereas Aparupa Poddar mentioned that child labour is a highly social evil and the root cause of child labour is poverty (http://goo.gl/l5xuvV).

Nadimul Haque took part on a discussion on The Compensatory Afforestation Fund Bill, 2016, and stressed on the Trinamool Congress’ view on the ‘Rights of the Forest’ (http://goo.gl/uuhZGP)

 

 

Saugata Roy speaks in Lok Sabha during a discussion on price rise

Sir, thank you for allowing me to speak on the motion. Prices are linked essentially with economic and monetary policies. So it is in the fitness of things that the Finance Minister is here. But I have never heard, maine kabhi aapka itna kamzor bhashan nahin suna. You are pinning your hopes on good monsoon and as the Finance Minister your are busy rationalising the reasons for increase in the prices of dal. Hopes do not fill empty stomachs. You must offer solutions.

When the prices of petrol came down from 110 dollars per barrel in the global market to 30 dollars per barrel, you had a windfall. But you did not pass on the benefits to the people and instead invested the money on infrastructure.

I want to remind the treasury benches that farmer suicides have become record high during the NDA rule. No tears have been shed by Modi ji for them. He is busy on foreign tours and has no words to spare for the hapless farmers. No word was spoken about the farmer suicides in Maharashtra in the last two years.

The economic policy of this government is based on two pillars: one is the windfall due to global fuel prices and the other is imposition of cess. Their motto seems to be impose cess on everything under the Sun

Sir, I want to mention the reply Ram Vilas Paswan gave in this House on 19 July. He cited the reasons for increasing inflation. He said that rise in the prices of essential items is due to shortfall in production due to adverse weather conditions, increased transportation costs, supply chain constraints like lack of storage facilities, and hoarding and black marketing.

I have another reply by the minister on 10 May. It says, ‘increase in prices of food prices is mainly on account of shortfall in production due to adverse weather conditions, increased transportation costs, supply chain constraints.’ I would request the Minister to ask his officers to at least make some changes while giving answers.

When a similar discussion was held earlier in 2015, the Minister’s final reply was not given. You had just intervened. There was hardly any difference between that intervention and today’s reply by Jaitley ji were indistinguishable. Both are mere apologies.

I want to place a few figures before you today. Prices of gram dal have increased by 53.72% in one year, tur dal – 42.3%, urad dal – 48.33%, sugar – 34.7%, potato – 31.72%, tomato – 43.97%.

This is a precarious situation. Consumer price inflation was 5.77% in June, 5.76% in May. Food inflation was 7.79% in June, 7.47% in May. Inflation in vegetables was 10.77% in May and 14.74% in June. The rural people are the biggest sufferers. Retail inflation in rural areas is 6.2% whereas it is 5.26% in urban areas. Rate of inflation is lowest in Bengal among States.

We are taking several initiatives in Bengal to control rising prices. In Kolkata 30 fair price vegetable shops are being run. Vegetables are being procured directly from farmers at Kisan Mandis. Such Mandis are being set up in every block. We want to see some initiatives from the Centre also. Improve infrastructure to preserve perishable items like fruits and vegetables. This calls for public investment in agriculture infrastructure and attracting private investment. Ninety per cent of public investment in agriculture is made by the States. Center is not making any investment. This is a sad reality. People’s incomes are being squeezed and the middle class and the lower middle classes are falling in great difficulties.

The government talked about hoarding and black marketing. It must be controlled. Essential Commodities Act is under the state jurisdiction and rightly so. But what is the amount of actual recovery?

Value of goods confiscated under the Essential Commodities Act updated up to 31-3-2016 is Rs 72.24 crore. Now total food grain trade in India would be several lakh crores. Rs 72 crore that is recovered in the dishoarding confiscation is miniscule. What is this figure less in States ruled by BJP? Even in a big State like Madhya Pradesh, a big State in India, you have confiscated only Rs 92 lakh.

The Centre must show some empathy to the people of the country who are in great distress and take some concrete steps.

With these words, Sir, I conclude my speech.

Thank you, Sir.

Saugata Roy speaks in LS on Chinese incursion in Uttarakhand

Madam, the Chinese troops were active in the Bara Hoti area of Chamoli District, Uttarakhand. Uttarakhand Chief Minister on Wednesday confirmed that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) had transgressed the area earlier this month. The transgression came to light when Chamoli district officers had gone to Bara Hoti on July 19 to collect data on landholding. They noticed Chinese troops on the ground while a helicopter even hovered over the area five minutes before returning to their side.

According to Home Ministry officials the PLA troops told the officials to go back as the area belonged to them. They told the Indian team that they recognized the area as ‘uje’. The official said Chinese helicopter could have carried out a real photography of Bara Hoti. The PLA troops however did not cross the canal in Bara Hoti that has become the unofficial demarcation line between India and China.

Uttarakhand shares a 350 km boundary with China. And this instance is not the first incident of transgression by China. The Central Government should take immediate steps to counter Chinese aggression and transgression into our land. And we expect a statement from the Home Minister or the Defense Minister on this issue.

 

Trinamool raises matters of public importance in Parliament

Playing the role of a responsible Opposition, Trinamool Congress MPs today spoke on various issues of public importance in both Houses of the Parliament.

Speaking in Rajya Sabha during the Zero Hour, Md Nadimul Haque raised the issue of the plight of four lakh minority students in Bengal who were not receiving their scholarships. He urged the Centre to allow States to electronically transfer the funds through Direct Benefit Transfer.

Dola Sen spoke on the urgent demand for elimination of unmanned level crossings. In her speech she highlighted when Mamata Banerjee was the Railway Minister, due to her untiring and sustained work towards rail safety, the index for train accidents decreased significantly from 0.29 per million train km in 2004-05 to 0.17 in 2009-10.

In the Lok Sabha, Saugata Roy demanded that the powers of Tea Board Head Office in Kolkata not be curtailed in the name of decentralisation and said people of Bengal will protest severely against any attempts to shift the headquarters of Tea Board outside Bengal.

During Question Hour, Derek O’Brien asked the government in Rajya Sabha to enlist their plans to make life-saving drugs affordable for common people. In Lok Sabha, Prasun Banerjee wanted to know from the government what initiatives were being taken by them to popularise football in India.

Leader of the party in Rajya Sabha, Derek O’Brien today initiated a short duration discussion in the Rajya Sabha on the issue of price rise. “The Government has to be responsible for bringing down the prices of commodities in the markets,” he said. Citing the example of Sufal Bangla scheme and task forces formed the Bengal Government to keep a check on prices, Derek O’Brien advised the Centre to follow successful models from the State to control inflation.

During a discussion on the Benami Transaction (Prohibition) Amendment Bill, 2015 in Lok Sabha, Kalyan Banerjee and Saugata Roy appealed to the government not to amend the current Act and instead bring a fresh Bill altogether to deal with benami property.

Finally, at the end of the day’s proceedings in the Rajya Sabha, Dola Sen made a Special Mention on the successful Bengal model in combating Left-Wing extremism and asked the Centre to follow the footsteps of the State in dealing with issue elsewhere in the country.

Ahmed Hassan Imran raised the issue of reduction of central funding of several key schemes and said this was against the spirit of cooperative federalism. He asked the Government to explain how State Governments are to carry on with these welfare programmes, and ensure development in the States without adequate funds.

 

Saugata Roy speaks on The Benami Transaction (Prohibition) Amendment Bill, 2015 in LS

Kalyan Banerjee, an eminent lawyer, has already made all the points on our party’s behalf. All I want to say is that, as a member of the Standing Committee on Finance we had 8 meetings on The Benami Transactions Bill, and we gave a unanimous report in which we said that a fresh law should be brought. I want to ask the Hon’ble Finance Minister why is it that he chose to override the unanimous recommendation of the Finance Committee, in which his party colleague was also a part, and go ahead with the Bill.

Madam, the intention of the Minister is good. He wants to end black money but it is very often said that the path to hell is laid with good intentions. This Act is opening the path to hell. Because in the statement of object, the Bill does not say that the purpose is to eradicate black money. Nowhere is there a mention. Suddenly he says that it’s to eradicate black money. That’s all.

Here in this Act there is a provision for confiscation under 27(1) and it will be vested in the Central Government. If somebody evades income tax and the money comes from smuggling, human trafficking, drug offences, it’s all right, invest in the Central Government. But say the State Government allocates land, like it’s done in many townships, whether for residential purpose or whether for setting up a factory, then why should it not invest in State Government? Because it should go back from this to the State Government which had originally allocated the land.

Lastly, I think this will open a serious problem in rural areas where there are no proper land records and there are cash transactions, lakhs of people will become homeless and we have said that this will open the road to tax terrorism. The Bill should not become another cursive instrument in the hands of revenue department to forcibly collect taxes as the existing Income Tax Act has adequate provisions and teeth to deal with issues such as tax evasion and unaccounted income.

So my last appeal to the Hon’ble Finance Minister is that we support the intention of the Bill. You bring a fresh and proper Bill, we all support it unanimously. Let him take back this Bill today.

Saugata Roy speaks in Lok Sabha on The Institutes of Technology (Amendment) Bill, 2016

Today, I speak on The Institutes of Technology (Amendment) Act, 1961. Firstly, I oppose the raising of the Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT) fees to Rs 2 lakh per year. It is totally against the common people, the common students. I speak from experience. Fifty-two years ago, I was admitted to IIT Kharagpur, which I left later. The fee was only Rs 20 per month, which means Rs 240 in a year. That’s why my parents could afford it. And now you are raising it to Rs 2 lakh a year. You are saying you will give loans and concessions. I think it is totally anti-people. Ask the IITs to reduce the fees immediately.

Secondly, I support the Bill otherwise for setting up new IITs in Tirupati, Jammu, Bhilai, Palakkad, Goa and Dharohar, and converting Indian School of Mines (ISM), Dhanbad to an IIT. But I want to ask the Hon’ble minister why he has allotted only Rs 230 crore for six IITs and Rs 100 crore for ISM. Why have you given so little money? Please clarify – how can IITs initiate developmental activities on this money?

Thirdly, Sir, I take this opportunity to pay my respect to Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru who first visualised the IIT. I pay my respect to Dr Bidhan Chandra Roy, Bengal’s former Chief Minister, who offered the Hijli jail in Kharagpur for setting up the IIT. He also got Gyan Chandra Ghosh, a famous Bengali chemist, to head the first IIT. Kudos to them.

IIT Kharagpur was a pioneer in the field and for the first time it started courses in naval architecture. aeronautical engineering and agricultural engineering which were not taught anywhere else in the country. Later, four more IITs were set up but all with foreign help. IIT Kanpur was set up with American help, IIT Madras with German help, IIT Delhi with British help.

Mr Prahlad Joshi mentioned that Narendra Modi ji is setting up IITs in every State. It’s not factually correct. The fact is that the decision of setting up eight IITs were taken earlier – IIT College of Engineering Technology in Delhi, IIT Guwahati, IIT Roorkee, IIT Bhubaneswar, IIT Gandhinagar, IIT Hyderabad, IIT Indore, IIT Jodhpur, IIT Mandi, IIT Patna, IIT Ropar and IIT-BHU were set up during the last plan.

So it is not factually correct to say that Narendra Modi has taken the initiative. It is a good idea that we must have an IIT in every State. We must give every State the benefit of the high-quality teaching and research that IITs provide to us. In the morning, in a reply to a question, you have correctly said that in spite of the very good work done by the IITs in the past, our IITs are no longer among the top 50 global educational institutes. IIT Bombay is between 351-400, and IIT Delhi, Kharagpur and Madras are between 401-500, while IIT Roorkee and IIT Guwahati are between 501-600. So this shows how far behind we are and the best IIT we have in the Asian rankings, IIT Bombay is at 54.

So we have to do something to really improve the IITs further. I hope that the Minister will accept that something needs to be done. My submission is that you should go for fresh collaboration with top American universities and British universities like Pandit Nehru did. It’s not against the interest of the nation. You should collaborate with the top institutes of America, Britain and China to improve the standards of the IITs, to reach international standards: we have not yet reached international standards. We must raise our level to their levels.

Lastly, I would like to mention a few points. We should find out why Dr Anil Kakodkar, one of our best nuclear scientists, resigned from the Board of Governors of IIT Bombay. We should persuade these people to come to these institutes.

A member was suggesting that there should be good industry-IIT interface. But my experience says industry does not contribute a single rupee to IITs. Rather, you should reach out to the alumni. The IIT alumni are forthcoming, especially those who are established abroad, in coming forward to donate money. Please approach them for getting money as well as cutting-edge technology. These days, only cutting-edge technology can survive in the highly competitive world.

Lastly I will end by saying one small thing. Mr. Javadekar, please think of what you can do to improve patriotism in the boys and girls from IIT. I am told that 80 per cent of the students of IIT Bombay go to America, and most of them do not return. We are spending government money. If the best products of our institutions go to America, we sell out brains to make our engineers cyber coolies in America, and then it is unfortunate for the country. Don’t do it the RSS way, let us put values in them so that they love the country and stay back.

Many new IITs have come up in recent years and are also doing well. But we must take initiatives to bring them up to the level of other IITs. The Minister, I hope, will announce a programme. The Central Government runs some of the best institutions like Indian Institutes of Management, Indian Institutes of Science Education and Research. They are good but not at par with international standards. All efforts should be made to prevent politicisation of their management and to see that the best talents get together to produce the best engineers and technologists found anywhere in this highly competitive world in which India is making a bid to sit at the high table.
With these words Sir, I support the Bill.

Saugata Roy speaks asks a question on modernisation of Armed Forces

The war in the future will be a technological war and it is here that India is falling far behind. There are three reasons for that. Our DRDO has failed to deliver. We know how much time was taken to develop our light combat aircraft and our main battle tank. The Make In India initiative has not taken off though we were supposed to have six nuclear submarines.

The main problem is that in spite of tall talk the percentage of defence expenditure in India is low. It is four per cent of the budget in US, 3.5 per cent in China, three per cent in Pakistan and 1.74 per cent in India.

Will the Hon’ble Minister please tell what step he is taking to overcome these three major hurdles in the modernisation of Armed Forces, that is, hastening of the DRDO process, hastening of the Make In India process and improving budgetary support to defence.