In conversation with… Sukhendu Sekhar Roy

Sukhendu Sekhar Roy is the Chief Whip of the party in the Rajya Sabha

Question: What was the complaint you raised about the way the House was being run?

SS Roy: On Wednesday morning, when the supplementary list of business was circulated on the increase in central excise on petrol and diesel products, the Leader of the Opposition said Anand Sharma would speak on his behalf and the Leader of the House said he should be allowed to respond. The deputy chairman sought out an assurance from the Congress. But when I did the same with Vivek Gupta, that wasn’t allowed. I am the chief whip of the party, I nominate as per party directions who says what. If Azad can nominate, so can I. It is inconsistent to allow one and not the other.

 

Question: What is your problem with the chair seeking an assurance?

SS Roy:  The House is run on rules, not on assurances and counter-assurances. Such bargaining to run the House goes not only against the rules but also against propriety. Some parties cannot hold the House to ransom. It can be done behind the scenes, but not in the House.

 

Question: The deputy Chairman thought you were casting aspersions on the chair.

SS Roy:  Not at all, I invited attention to the violence of rules. The chair has the discretion to suspend any rule but that is a discretionary power. Propriety demands that it should be used sparingly, not routinely. This House cannot be run on the whims and fancies of any individual or political party. The chair failed to appreciate it. Mine was only an statement of facts.

 

Question: When the House is said to be already held to ransom by those disrupting it, what is the problem if the chair tries to run the House?

SS Roy:  It is a bad precedent. If somebody creates a ruckus, there is a laid-down procedure to deal with it. If that is not done, it is incumbent on members to draw the attention of the chair. This is not somebody’s drawing room.

 

Question: Are you suggesting the chair should start talking action against agitation numbers?

SS Roy: I cannot advise that the chair on what to do but as an ordinary member this is my expectation from the chair that the House be run on rules. I am disappointed.

 

This interview first appeared in The Indian Express Delhi Edition on 17 December, 2015

Trinamool raises issues of public importance in the Parliament

Members of Parliament belonging to Trinamool Congress today raised issue related to public importance in both houses of the Parliament. Leader of the party in Lok Sabha, Sudip Bandyopadhyay and Dr Ratna De Nag spoke today about call drops issue and arsenic poisoning, respectively, while in the Upper House, Nadimul Haque raised the issue of appointment of Chief Information Commissioner during Zero Hour.

Sudip Bandyopadhyay raised the issue of call drops which is currently a major concern for people. “For a call of 15 minutes duration, the line gets disconnected at least 15 times,” he said. “Has the Government taken any step to collect money from private companies for call drops and how much money has been collected so far,” he questioned.

Click here for the full transcript and video of his speech

Also in Lok Sabha, Dr Ratna De Nag made a Zero Hour mention about arsenic poisoning. She said that 96 out of 640 districts have arsenic deposits and arsenic is entering our food chain. “Over 3 lakh people have arsenic related disease of which 30% are poor,” she said adding that the government must bring a policy to ensure arsenic poisoning is contained and arsenic does not enter our food chain.

Click here for the full transcript and video of her speech

In the Upper House, Nadimul Haque spoke on the appointment of Chief Information Commissioner. He pointed out that till date 33000 cases are pending before the CIC and the delay in appointment of CIC has laid to denial of information on higher offices. Why is the Government not appointing CIC expeditiously, he wondered while urging that in future the government must appoint the CIC well in advance before the term of sitting commissioner ends.

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Nadimul Haque demands expeditious appointment of CIC

I like to bring to the attention of the house the delay in the appointment of the Chief Information Commissioner. Sir, this has led to a mounting pendency of cases before the office of the Chief Information Commissioner. Till date, approximately 33000 appeals and complaints are pending before the Central Information Commission out of which 12000 belong to the Chief Information Commission.

Sir, the chief information commissioner is responsible for hearing second appeals and complaints arising out of high offices of the government including the PMO, the President’s Secretariat, and various ministries etc and is appointed by the President on the recommendation of a committee constituted by the Prime Minister, the leader of the opposition and a member of the cabinet to be appointed or nominated by the Prime Minister.

However, this delay in the appointment of the CIC has led to an indirect denial of information for the aforesaid higher offices which the Government on merits may not be able to deny directly under the RTI Act, 2005. The PM has recently said at the 10th Annual Convention of the CIC that the process of assessing information should be transparent, timely and trouble free, delayed information does not help in solving a problem but increases it.

Sir, in this light i would like to ask that why is the PM not appointing a CIC. Hence, i would request the government to appoint a Chief Information Commissioner expeditiously and in future that the CIC is appointed well in advance before the tenure of the sitting Chief information Commissioner comes to an end.

Thank you sir.

Rajya Sabha: Trinamool counters FM factually regarding VAT

The Rajya Sabha today had a debate on the hike in the excise duty on petrol and diesel. In spite of international crude prices falling from 115$ per barrel to 35$ a barrel, the government has increased excise duty of fuel by 17 per cent, thus burdening the common man.

Taking part in the debate, the Union Finance Minister Mr Arun Jaitley said that States like West Bengal and Bihar increased VAT on petroleum goods in the last one year.

Leader of party in Rajya Sabha, Derek O’Brien countered Mr Arun Jaitley’s claim and said he was factually incorrect.

“Bengal did not raise VAT on petrol in the past one year. Bengal capped VAT rate in January, 2015,” he said. He also mentioned that the rate of tax on diesel in West Bengal is 17%, and the rate of tax on petrol is 25%.

Derek O’Brien also asked the Chair to set the record straight.

Delegation of Trinamool MPs meet Union minister of Minority Affairs

A delegation of Trinamool MPs today met the Union minority affairs minister Najma Heptullah to raise various issues regarding the upliftment of the minority communities in Bengal.

Leader of the party in Lok Sabha, Sudip Bandopadhyay and Leader of the party in Rajya Sabha, Derek O’Brien led the delegation.

The delegation included Lok Sabha MPs Saugata Roy, Sisir Adhikari, Dinesh Trivedi, Idrish Ali, Ratna De Nag, Mumtaz Sanghamita, Pratima Mondal, Aparupa Poddar and Rajya Sabha MPs Sukhendu Sekhar Roy, and Nadimul Haque.

The meeting was cordial. The delegation brought the minister up to date with the developmental initiatives taken by West Bengal government for upliftment of minorities. They told the minister that Bengal is the best among states in minority development.

The minister assured that she will visit Bengal soon in the new year.

 

Key issues were raised in the meeting:

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Trinamool condemns CBI raid at Delhi CM’s office

National Spokesperson of the party and Leader of the party in Rajya Sabha, Derek O’Brien today called the CBI raid at Delhi Chief Minister’s unprecedented and demanded clarification from the Central government.

“Has Emergency been declared?” he asked in a statement posted on the party’s Twitter channel.

Trinamool also gave a notice in Rajya Sabha under Rule 267 to suspend usual business and immediately take up discussion on the CBI raid at Delhi CM’s office.

“This is an issue about the country and the federal structure. This is beyond a party issue. The office of a democratically elected CM has been raided by CBI,” Derek said in Rajya Sabha.

“CBI reports directly to the Prime Minister. Files in Chief Minister’s office have been gone through. he BJP is trying to kill the States. They are destroying federalism,” he added while maintaining that the party was not trying to defend any corrupt official.

Trinamool MPs also raised the slogan “Bachao bachao federalism” in Rajya Sabha.

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Special Mention by SS Ray regarding harassment of senior journalist in Delhi

Demand for setting up inquiry into blatant misuse of ‘protection’ power by police causing harassment to senior journalist in Delhi

Sir, in the name of protection, police has been found harassing a senior journalist of an Urdu daily. This is not the first time. Many incidents of harassment of media-persons by police officials have come to light.

The blatant misuse of power by police officials, as seen in the case of Mr Haque and many others, speaks loudly on the threat to the freedom of the Press to function in the country.

The following series of events need to be examined in the light of the incident: It was 1.00 a.m. in the night in the month of December. Mr. Haque, aged 81, who is the Chief Editor of an Urdu daily, is paid a visit by the Police Department without a written authority letter. The SHO at Shakarpur, Delhi, calls him and summons him to the Police Station ostensibly for his protection. On reaching the Police Station, he is treated disrespectfully. The incident, in plain first hearing, does not have any room for misinterpretation.

For a country, which boasts of its diversity and respect for views, opinions and a free Press, acts of harassment like these are a matter of shame and disrespect. I believe that this House will condemn the high-handed actions of the officer and seek the Government to not only make an inquiry but also keep a strict vigilance on any such incidents reported.

 

Trinamool against vindictive politics

Trinamool Congress has always protested against the politics of vindictiveness. Trinamool Chairperson has raised her voice time and again against the vindictive politics practiced by the Centre and the BJP.

On Tuesday, Leader of the party in Lok Sabha, Sudip Bandopadhyay said in Lok Sabha, “For Parliament to function, vindictive attitude of the government towards Opposition must stop. We must ensure Opposition is not targeted by the government. We are united in this stand.”

On Wednesday, Leader of the party in Rajya Sabha, Derek O’Brien said in the House: “We all know our responsibilities. We all want the House to run. But when there is open political vendetta, what do we do. We are against politics of vindictiveness.”

A similar case of political vindictiveness has been reported to the Union Home Minister by Trinamool’s Rajya Sabha MP Nadimul Haque, which concerns his father.

On December 3, 2015, at midnight, few police officers had visited the residence of Shri M W Haque, who is 81 years old and is the Chief Editor of Akbar-e-Mashrique, an Urdu daily newspaper, at Lalitnagar in Delhi.

He was forced to accompany the police officers to the Shakarpur PS where he was unnecessarily and disrespectfully questioned regarding the publishing of news on Akbar-e-Mashrique. The news in question, supplied by the agency, INS India, is about a thug named Kamalesh Tewari who posed as a member of the Hindu Mahasabha and had been arrested by police in Naka for hurting religious sentiments.

The SHO and his subordinate officers of Sakharpur Police Station needlessly harassed and created mental disturbance of Sh. MW Haque.

The incident is yet another instance of the intolerance of BJP. If an 81-year old Chief Editor of an Urdu daily can be hauled up at midnight for publishing an agency-news, that too about a Hindu radical criminal being sent to jail for his offences, it is for sure that the protectors of law and order in the country are being backed by vindictive politics.

Nadimul Haque speaks on India-Nepal relations

Sir, the new Constitution of Nepal promises an era peace and progress in a democratic and federal structure. However, the Madhesis and the Tharus, residents of Terai region, have been protesting to the provisions of the Constitution related to political representation, citizenship and inclusion.

Sir, while we cannot ignore our centuries-old relationship with Nepal, we must also consider the fact that Madhesis and Tharus have social, cultural and religious links with Indians living across the border. The interim Constitution of Nepal of 2007 provided for proportionate representation of Madhesis and other such groups in the state organs. But the present Constitution does not provide such options.

The present Constitutions says that only citizens by descent will be eligible to hold public offices like President, Prime Minister, Chief Justice, Chief Secretary etc. This clause may have a discriminatory effect on Madhesis, many of whom have acquired citizenship by naturalisation.

Citizenship by naturalisation is mainly acquired by those who are born to a Nepali parent and a foreigner. Typically, Madhesis tend to marry people from the Indo-Nepal border. As my colleague was saying that ‘roti-beti ka rishta hai’.

Sir, in demarcating the seven provincial boundaries, their Constitution has merged 12 out of the 20 districts of the Terai region with various Hill provinces. The Madhesis and Tharus are arguing that this would allow the Hill districts to dominate in the provinces and deprive them of resources.

Sir, in light of this issue, India expressed concerns after the protests in October, 2015. Also at United Nations Human Rights Council, in November, 2015, India had recommended that the Government of Nepal should accommodate all sections of Nepal in the Constitution building process.

It is pertinent to mention that before raising emerging issues of Indo-Nepal relations in an international forum, it would have been better for our government to continue the process of dialogue with Government of Nepal, keeping in mind the long-standing, friendly bilateral relations between the two countries; even China has started fishing in troubled waters.

Sir, India and Nepal have arguments with regard to trade and commerce, sharing of river waters, energy cooperation, investment protection etc India has also exported petroleum products, motor vehicles, spare parts etc to the tune of around Rs 28000 crore whereas it has imported polyester yarns, textiles, jutes and other products for around Rs 4000 crore in 2014-15. It is therefore a mutual interest that both countries should explore all means to resolve the contentious issues; the sooner it is done the better it would be better for both the countries.

Sir, Nepal shares its borders with five Indian states. These are West Bengal, Sikkim, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh and Uttarakhand. Bengal shares its border with three countries. These are Bangladesh, Bhutan and Nepal. Sir, on a side note it has to be noted that this is a very sensitive area and any cut in state funding is also affecting police modernisation in this area. But I am coming back to the larger issue, Sir.

There are large numbers of people of Nepalese origin who reside both permanently and temporarily in India, particularly in these five states in a conducive atmosphere of amity and fraternity. The Madhesis in Nepal are our brothers and we should have a duty towards them.

In this background, we welcome the meeting between our Minister of External Affairs with the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Nepal recently where discussion were held on 4 key issues concerning:

  1. Constituency de-limitation
  2. Political representation
  3. Citizenship
  4. Demarcation of provinces

Sir, my party sincerely hopes and believes that considering the warmth exuded by the Indian Government during the April, 2015 earthquake in Nepal, a similar gesture would be extended by the Government of Nepal for betterment of relations with India.

Sir, I rest my case.

Vivek Gupta speaks on the Prevention of Corruption (Amendment) Bill, 2013

Corruption is probably one of those words that are most commonly understood by the Indian people. However Sir, before we start talking about the corruption we must understand that there are two different types of corruption.

One is the senior citizen who is not getting his pension, he is forced to resort to corruption to start getting this pension or the people who don’t get their ration or basic common facilities and amenities; then have to resort the corruption. We as a united country have failed to provide people some basic common necessities and which is why they have to resort to corruption.

The other is, Sir, where someone in position of power or influence uses his position to give some benefit which is not due to some group of people. It is that corruption that we should tackle and come very hardly on.

We should first look at the basic root of corruption. Sir, one of basic root of corruption is black money. And it is no secret that black money has its origins in election funding. Herein comes my party Supremo and popular leader Hon’ble Mamata Banerjee. You know she was first one to talk about electoral reforms; it is even mentioned in the election manifesto of Trinamool Congress. We believe in massive comprehensive electoral reforms drawing on international base practices so that the corrupt and criminals do not becomes the people’s representatives.

We also believe that to reach this goal of corruption free politics, time has come for the nation to adopt government funding of elections which is already functional in many nations of the world including UK, Germany, France etc .

Sir this Bill has several defects. I am just outlining a few one of them so that through you I can draw the attention of the Hon’ble Minister who, if he so wishes, correct them.

Sir, all relatives of the person have been left out. This is a very important ommission. Family and friends are one of the most important forms of the corruption that has been left out completely. They have not been included in this Bill. If I do not wish to be part of the corruption directly I can always ask to take the money or the draft to my wife or my father or my family or friend. That has been left out completely.

Sir, we have witnessed in the past that people who are sitting in eminent positions have asked the corruption to be given to the charities or to the companies they own. That also has been left out in the definition of corruption in the Bill. I would not like to take the name but a previous Election Commissioner got money from a political party into his favorite charity. After that what happened the world knows.

Sir, lobbying is a dirty word or a good word I don’t know. But lobbying activities are not at all covered. Sir, it is an open fact and open secret that lobbying takes place in India both at public policy and political levels. However it happens in hush-hush manner in the name of funding, in the name of NGOs; it is also one very effective tool used by people for corruption. Lobbying is also not included in this Bill.

Sir, recently a magazine featured an article how public servants are regularly getting free tickets of airlines and upgrades in airlines and most of these public officials belong to be ministry of civil aviation. Now it is an open understanding that it is a quid pro quo. These are also not included in the definition of corruption.

Sir there is Supreme Court case going on where a major Corporator has said that whenever a politician writes a recommendation letter we give them jobs. Now whether there is a quid pro quo involved or not that they did not spell out. But these possibilities, these definitions have not been included in the Act. Sir, I would not like to repeat but just reiterate that the post retirement posting of all people does influence these people to take their decisions.

Sir, this Bill has severely diluted the procedure to prosecute public officials. The requirement of intentional enrichment and the onus of the proof on the prosecutions will make it much more harder for advocates of anti-corruption. The prosecution will need to prove the position of unexplained assets as well as intention to enrich oneself. It may be difficult to be prove that the intention to amass wealth above the description of law.

Sir, in the previous Bill at least collusive bribery, where both parties have benefitted, and cursive bribery had a differentiation. Sir, through you I would like to draw the attention of the Hon’ble Minister that cursive bribery has been left out where citizen is compelled to give bribes. This is the one scenario I referred to in my earlier speech where the citizen is forced to pay the bribe.

Sir, towards the end of my speech, I would like to give a few quotes by Hon’ble Mamata Banerjee:

“Black Money leads to money power, money power leads to muscle power. Money and muscle power are together a toxic combination for parliamentary democracy.”

“I have referred to the 14 cases to the central agency but it did not take up those.”

Sir, the Supreme Court has referred to the CBI as a caged parrot and His Master’s Voice. Sir if a body like the Supreme Court refers to such examples that means something is wrong there. Hindi mein kehte hain bina aag ke dhuwa nahi hoti hain. So that means there is something.

Sir, what would suggest as a party is to make the CBI more powerful, more transparent and independent of its political master. Our last suggestion is to expand the definition of offences of bribery and compulsory disclosure by company’s expenditure on  bribery.